Panasonic LX100II: What’s different?

Panasonic LX100II: What’s different?

– Okay, when you see this video, it will be two weeks later. So, I mean this is two weeks ago. ‘Cause I’m in New Zealand, and I have my workshop here
about all about YouTube. And then when I’m here Panasonic New Zealand get contact, and then they sent me
this Panasonic LX100II. Not usual that I’ve got to test a camera before the official launch. Even the instruction manual
said that it’s in for prototype. Here is the prototype camera, LX100II. I thought it would be called LX300 or LX200 something like that, but it’s LX100II, doesn’t matter. So this LX100II look
almost exactly the same as the last LX100, and between them, there are four years of time passed. So is there any difference? Four years of time, you expect there are
loads of new stuff, right? Right. So if you have heard about, if you have read about
this camera already, you may have heard that oh
it’s not much different. No, actually there’s a lot of different I’m telling you that. Now it’s got 17 megapixels,
effective 17 megapixels, before that was 13 Of course, after four years you expect the megapixel count jump 13 to 14… 13 to 17. Yeah. Now the actual sensor is
actually 21 megapixel, but because you can change aspect ratio, actually, the effective is just 17. I will talk about more about the aspect ratio selector later, but I do love the aspect
ratios selector, now 16:9. Okay, it looks exactly the same. Yes. Yes. I admit that it look
like exactly the same, but well so like Sony RX100
from Mark 1 to Mark 6, they all look exactly the same anyway. It looks so close to the last one. That’s why I only got one tape
on it to cover the LX100II, and that’s it. But actually some difference, alright. The touch screen. Finally,
It’s a touch screen. Filter button on top now
is a function one button, because before that in my review when I
was still in DigitalRev I also mentioned that
the top filter button you can’t change it to anything else. Now you can. It’s a function one button. Well, the iA button you
still can’t change it. Oh the front grip is different. It’s still, of course, it’s still a compact camera. It’s not like a big mirrorless or even DSLR camera with a huge grip, but for compact camera, it’s not bad. There’s a lot of other compact cameras that’s a lot more slippery than this. Now, you can charge with USB. That’s good, because the last one you can’t and, well, the last one is four years ago. Well, I’m a bit disappointed
you can’t charge it when you are using it though. You have to turn it off to charge it. You can’t charge it while using it, not even power it with USB. Hmm. Oh, by the way, I changed
this to this kind of auto, auto, auto, door well you have to buy this separately it kind of like alien, like (growls). This is not new, and the new
things it including Bluetooth. Wow, finally you got Bluetooth. Monochrome picture profile, post focusing, focus stacking, 20x manual focus assist live view boost There’s loads of new stuff, right? Okay, 4K photo mode is
also new to this camera. Basically, it shoot a 4K
video and lets you export one of the frame as a photo, an 8 megapixel one. As it is from a 4K resolution. Interestingly, continuous AF burst rate down from 6.5 FPS before to 5.5 now, but buffer have been increased from 9 Raw to more than 33 Raw. Single AF burst is the same as 11 FPS. So, okay and, in fact, yes, I trying to say
that it’s got a lot of different this-and-that, but yes, it’s you can say
that it’s not much different. The lens, it’s exactly the same. Nothing, really hugely different. It’s not a revolutionary… I mean it’s… it even looks the same. For video, nothing special. You can do 4K, you got Power OIS, but it has got a built-in mic. Again… Why is there no compact
camera with mic input? Also it don’t have V-Log,
it don’t have Cinelike, those kind of flat picture profiles, which is disappointed, but it do 4K. A real 4K. 4K 25p, not those 15p
or something like that. So you can definitely use it. Something that really need an update. The EVF. It’s still the same as the
last LX100, the original one. When you pan, I still see some kind of red, green, and blue pixels that separated like, I think that, that kind of
like some colour ghosting. Mmm, that it’s not that…
That’s not that good. However, I do love the original LX100. I took one to my London
trip and made a review back in DigitalRev and Everything that made the
original LX100 great and unique. Still relevant today. Yeah, look at that. Shallow depth of field, I’ve got that too. Well, also not to mention this manual dial I always like these manual dial. No more A.S.A.P… PASM mode You just change it on the dial or put it into auto. Simple. One thing that is truly
unique to the LX series is the aspect ratios, which aspect ratio thing is up there. Actually, not a new concept, because Panasonic have this for like 10 years now, I think. From the LX3 or something like that. Now, it’s LX100. You can imagine
how many different camera? 97 cameras between our LX3 and LX100. Well, not really. Okay, not the best photo, but it’s just for illustration purposes. Yeah, it lets you select
different aspect ratio, but is not as simple
as cropping the photos. For example, the 16:9 actually
gives you more on both side compared to a 4:3 picture,
well, maybe except the 1:1. In fact, it’s never use the whole sensor. In this way, it can keep roughly the same diagonal angle of view. Well, maybe except a 1:1. It really depends on how you look at it. You can say you want, you need to use the
whole Four Third sensor, or why have 4 more
megapixel when you can have the creative use of aspect ratio? I do enjoy picking different aspect ratio for different scenario. I mean, this combination, it’s
just unique to this camera. The sensor, the small size, the lens, and it’s just so snappy. It’s just so handy to use. This is simply a zoom compact with the largest sensor
on the market right now. Yes, this may be just a performance bump compared to the original LX100, but it is the combination
of a small 24-75 zoom lens, quick AF, 11 burst responsive shutter, pair with a quiet leaf shutter. All makes this a super
useful little camera that you simply can’t
find a comparable product on the market right now. Anyway, thank you for watching this short and brief review, because I don’t have too much time to reveal this camera on this trip. I mean still in in New Zealand
as I mentioned already, Still have to prepare for my workshop. So I hope you find this really
short and brief video helpful Yay.

100 thoughts on “Panasonic LX100II: What’s different?”

  1. No mic jack, your selfie filming is totally out of focus I guess Panasonic still doesn't know how to do video AF, you couldn't see how bad you're out of focus since the display is not flippable, there is no IBIS your video is a shaky mess, too bad. Don't buy this camera for video.

  2. $598 street price is just right! I have the LX100 and I love it, although dust does creep into the lens over time. Do you know if the seals are better on this model?

  3. One of greatest cameras I ever had, apart from really not reliable AF (missing all the time) and not so good dynamic range. And I see stabilization still does not work in video 🙁

  4. It was a joy to use my LX100 for so long and was looking forward to the mark 2. So, disappointed but I probably might still get it when price drops to around $700s.

  5. Naaa, not much of a upgrade. More of a replacement for the old camera that probably is going out of production, you get a few upgrades but not much more. If you need auto focus for video you should look elsewhere, like Canon.

  6. Hello Lok. Thank you for the video! Can you tell me, at 5:53 is the photo of your friend with the Leica Q taken with the LX100?
    Many thanks.

  7. The 1:1 is a complete con! It should use the entire sensor height. Should be exactly the same as cropping to 1:1 in a normal mft camera. Multi aspect is supposed to give the most efficient usage of the image circle and this fails. Combine with the 1.35 x crop in video and im underwelmed. Anyway, keep reviewing Lok, I watch mainly for your charm. How was that moving shot of the car done by the way?

  8. $997?! Fail, the original released at $800 and there isn't enough upgrades over that to ask for more. Even the MkI didn't sell well until it hit $600, this mkII has no chance.

  9. Almost bought version one but bad AF for video, no flip screen and mic input. Still no flip screen and mic input, yup pass for me.

  10. Sorry guys a correction: zoom compact with the largest sensor should be the Canon G1X Mark III. I vaguely remember there's a Canon compact with large sensor but I couldn't find it when I was doing VO, I even thought I was wrong at the moment! Of course that one has a much slower lens, the only advantage could be just dynamic range.

  11. It's got a built in mic that's not great either. Even the G9x has a great built in mic, when you give people no choice, at least make a reasonable choice!

  12. I still would take my panasonic g7 whcih is only 16mp. just has good screen, grip, and interchangable lenses. bargain now. Only issue is photo quality is … a little weak but ok. it often beats my older crop camera

  13. I love this camera. It does everything and its compact. So this is basically a upgraded sensor, a touch screen, and some new features like 4k photo? How's the AF compare to the last version? I think the touch screen is handy for focus, but other than that, I think I'd rather buy the last version and save some money. I'd like to have a flip out screen or something more. For the previous version, the lens is very nice but the viewfinder isnt the best, and it lags a bit sometimes, but overall I love the image quality out of the mft sensor and lens and I'd take this over the rx100 any day, actually.

  14. This is a missed opportunity. The original was great but was lacking a touch and tilt screen. Now it gets touch but why not tilt? For a street camera it would make more sense to add a tilt screen. Buy the GX9 instead, you get all the features. If you want to save some money, get the GX80.

  15. If this will be the camera will not worth change from the mark one in my opinion. And again no flip screen…. how is it possible?

  16. Lovely camera, the one confusing thing is that there's a Panasonic and not a Fujifilm logo on it, it's exactly the camera one would expect in Fuji's lineup, replacing their smaller sensor compacts like the X30.

  17. I built my channel on the LX100 and still use it everyday. MK2 looks the same, but it`s got some nice upgrades.

  18. They had so much time to get it right. Smh.

    Edit: and they placed it at a price point where they wouldn’t have to lower the original price of Mk1

  19. Thanks Lok for taking the time to review the LX100 Mark II. I actually bought the Original lx100 after watching your excellent original lx100 video a couple of years ago, and I have found it to be the most versatile and enjoyable camera I've ever owned and I want to thank you for such an honest and helpful review, I believe it's the best review on the LX100 anywhere!

    Originally I got the lx100 as an inexpensive 4k B-roll and travel camera, but after using it on a couple of professional shoots for less Conspicuous candid shots, I found I got more good images with the LX100 than with my Full-Frame D600 Nikon or Panasonic GX-8, mainly because of the uncomplicated operation, reasonably good autofocus, the pop of the Summilux lens and not having to waste time changing lenses.

    I was a bit disappointed however to see the LX-100 MKII to not be more of an advancement, but the 20.1 mp sensor in the GX-8 is an improvement in terms of noise over the LX100 and GH4, but not in terms of Color and the look of the original LX100, hopefully Panasonic has retained the Leica look of the original LX100 in the MKII rather than just the GX8's "out of the box" look and mediocre JPEGS when compared to the LX100.

    When I started using the lx100 with Capture One 11 rather than Lightroom, I noticed a significant Improvement in apparent detail, micro contrast, colors and noise, so much so that the advantage of the Leica Summilux lens and Leica color processing that seems to be shared with the D-Lux 109 became apparent, On several shoots where I’ve used the D-600 Nikon with Nikon zooms and primes, and GX-8 with the 22-35mm Vario X 2.8 and Panasonic Prime Lenses the LX-100 often bests them in terms of pleasing color and realism. The Added detail of the Summilux lens images often end up looking more detailed on screen and up to 11” X 14” prints than other cameras with nearly twice the MP.

    I’ve also found that with Capture One I can often recover one to two extra Megapixels of frame size.

    I have found the Panasonic mobile app handy for stealthy candid and street shooting, as I can control the power zoom from the app and trigger the nearly silent leaf shutter while seeing a realtime view. I can look like I'm just using my phone while I zoom and snap images with the camera hanging from a strap or with it setting on a table.

    However, In difference to your comment in your original LX100 video where you said dynamic range was “Ok but nothing to shout about” with careful RAW exposure and processing I’ve found I a lot of useable shadow and highlight detail and found it as good or better than many cameras that are generally assumed to be much better.

    As far as video, I’ve been very happy with the LX100 considering it’s a consumer grade video camera that shoots 8-bit video. I do like that the Leica look is also carried over to the Video side, and I often get better-looking images that require little or no grading and look better than what I get from my GH4 and GX8, and the Original LX100 also has a custom profile curve that can be adjusted to give somewhat of LOG look, I actually prefer to the 8-bit Log profiles in the GH4 and GX8.

    Looking forward to an in-depth review of the LX100 MK II.

  20. I was hoping for a built in ND filter, dust proofing, and built in flash. Hoping the increased resolution will improve the image details, despite the same lens as before, especially with buildings.

  21. Brilliant review, Lok. Almost LOL about 97 models in between LX3 and LX100 🙂 As for LX100II : Still no flip-screen was my first thought!

  22. Shame. Really looking forward to buying this camera but I will just keep my LX100 mk.1 as (i m o) the nominal upgrade does not warrant the extra money.

  23. You are currently reading my posted comment. Now you're reading it even more. How much more are you going to read before you realize I'm wasting your time? :3

  24. Hey Lok! I own the LX100 and I loved it until some issues start to happen. I’m wondering… Did they fix the issues about the dust getting the sensor through the lenses’ gap? Did they fix the autofocus engine issue? Anyway, thank you for the review! 👊

  25. All in all it is disappointing! I will buy the Fujifilm X-A5 as a back-up camera, with a ad. good pancake lens it comes to about the same price but it is a interchangable camera, larger sensor, practical features.

  26. That multi ratio is actually same meaning as shoot with a 4/3 ratio sensor but don't use the whole sensor and crop in with different ratio, so in the end it still cropped and even the 4/3 is not full sensor readout, so shoot with a real 4/3 sensor and crop later to those ratios is same meaning

  27. Panasonic made us all wait this long. No one in PR or Social media was reading what people wanted. They release this with nothing to warrant paying that price! Sorry Panasonic! Maybe they will release and update so you can get a flip out screen hahaha

  28. I have the original LX100 which is a great camera, however, the one thing that I absolutely hate about it is the exposure compensation dial. I am forever accidently moving it and find I have taken pictures with the wrong exposure. A lock button or someway of diabling this would have been good which I doubt they have done.

  29. All in all the LX100II is a disapointment! There is no real evolution beside some developments which are standart today already! Same lens, which is realy not the finest, etc. It will be interesting what we will get from the LX 10/15 line (better pocketable). Also the "jump" from the GX 8 to the GX 9 was a clear downgrading! Is Panasonic in a crisis? They have no real customer focused marketing strategy! The best cameras they have for the time beeing are still the GH 5 (with issues) and the FZ 2000 (which is great but plays in a other class) the rest is realy not exiting. And they are ALL to expensive! I was waiting for the LX100II as a back up and EDC camera, but I'll get now a X-E3 instead, which is not the same but more punch for the same money, incl. a zoom lens.

  30. For a compact camera that is actually quite big. Please, Panasonic, make a small pocketable compact, something like a LF2…

  31. So it now has post focus and focus stacking? Does it still have the Multiple Exposure function? Hoping to hear from you

  32. I actually think it is kind of ballsy that they only made some practical adjustments instead of making huge changes just for marketing purposes. On the other hand, selfie video in broad daylight, totally out of focus. What the… Did you use some unfortunate setting or is this truly representative?

  33. I bought it a week ago and enjoy using it. I used GR2 previously, think I prefer LX100 due to bright lens, more function, zoom, and much more. Thank you for useful tips in your clip. By the way, where did you buy auto lens cap. Please share me with the link:) That’s the one I really need!

  34. If you’ve already purchased either the Lx100 m2 or Leica dlux 7, Can you please advise if you’re also hearing a rather loud sound coming from within the camera, likely from it’s gearing? I searched online and found others reported this being a common thing from the older lx100 m1 camera, but my Leica dlux cameras never had this issue, including my dlux 109, so I’m more than a little annoyed by this as it’s rather loud and very distracting. If this is in fact just a normal reality of the lx100 models, than I’ll happily pay the extra money for the Leica dlux 7 is it means not having to hear that distraction while shooting.

    Please advise. Thank you!

  35. What is the real difference? Almost $400 more money over Lumix LX100. Sony a6300 beats it with better autofocus, 4K Video, larger sensor, at similar price.

  36. What about its image stabilizer for 1080p video recording? I've watched other reviews about this camera, and I think it is too shaky; lame for its price range.

  37. Hi i´m from Brazil and I bought this camera and it's an amazing compact !! watch my video and pictures with it in NYC

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